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asked 2014-09-14 15:23:48 -0500

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how to use the new ICFDetector ?

there's a new ICFDetector class in the opencv_contrib repo, it seems to be a nice alternative to the CascadeClassifier (or latentsvm).

well, it comes with all the warts you'd expect from new functionality (hardcoded globs, featuretype), but apart from that, i'm struggling with the parameters for training it.

  • what should be the ratio of positive / negative images ? (there's this params.bg_per_image value, and the final negative count seems to be

    negative_imges_supplied * params.bg_per_image + positive_imges_supplied

    [also no idea, how those are finally 'synthesized', are they at all?])

  • what should be a good feature count ? (more is obviously better, but in what order ? 1000, 10000, 100000 ?)

  • do i need 'cropped' positives ? what about rotation ? would there be restrictions for 'negative' images as well ?

  • what is the difference between 'icf' and 'acf' features ?


resp. papers, again: 1 2

how to use train the new ICFDetector ?

there's a new ICFDetector class in the opencv_contrib repo, it seems to be a nice alternative to the CascadeClassifier (or latentsvm).

well, it comes with all the warts you'd expect from new functionality (hardcoded globs, featuretype), but apart from that, i'm struggling with the parameters for training it.

  • what should be the ratio of positive / negative images ? (there's this params.bg_per_image value, and the final negative count seems to be

    negative_imges_supplied * params.bg_per_image + positive_imges_supplied

    [also no idea, how those are finally 'synthesized', are they at all?])

  • what should be a good feature count ? (more is obviously better, but in what order ? 1000, 10000, 100000 ?)

  • do i need 'cropped' positives ? what about rotation ? would there be restrictions for 'negative' images as well ?

  • what is the difference between 'icf' and 'acf' features ?


resp. papers, again: 1 2

how to train the new ICFDetector ?

there's a new ICFDetector class in the opencv_contrib repo, it seems to be a nice alternative to the CascadeClassifier (or latentsvm).

well, it comes with all the warts you'd expect from new functionality (hardcoded globs, featuretype), but apart from that, i'm struggling with the parameters for training it.

  • what should be the ratio of positive / negative images ? (there's this params.bg_per_image value, and the final negative count seems to be

    negative_imges_supplied * params.bg_per_image + positive_imges_supplied

    [also no idea, how those are finally 'synthesized', are they at all?])

  • what should be a good feature count ? (more is obviously better, but in what order ? 1000, 10000, 100000 ?)

  • do i need 'cropped' positives ? what about rotation ? would there be restrictions for 'negative' images as well ?

  • what is the difference between 'icf' and 'acf' features ?

  • i noticed that using a CascadeClassifier, subsequent stages take like exponentially longer, but this one seems to behave the opposite way - 1st stage takes longest, then it gets faster, in the end it stops because it seems to be running out of negatives here (since both are using boosting, that's weird to me)


resp. papers, again: 1 2

how to train the new ICFDetector ?

there's a new ICFDetector class in the opencv_contrib repo, it seems to be a nice alternative to the CascadeClassifier (or latentsvm).

well, it comes with all the warts you'd expect from new functionality (hardcoded globs, featuretype), but apart from that, i'm struggling with the parameters for training it.

  • what should be the ratio of positive / negative images ? (there's this params.bg_per_image value, and the final negative count seems to be

    negative_imges_supplied * params.bg_per_image + positive_imges_supplied

    [also no idea, how those are finally 'synthesized', are they at all?])

  • what should be a good feature count ? (more is obviously better, but in what order ? 1000, 10000, 100000 ?)

  • do i need 'cropped' positives ? what about rotation ? would there be restrictions for 'negative' images as well ?

  • what is the difference between 'icf' and 'acf' features ?

  • i noticed that using training a CascadeClassifier, subsequent stages take like exponentially longer, but this one seems to behave the opposite way - 1st stage takes longest, then it gets faster, in the end it stops because it seems to be running out of negatives here (since both are using boosting, that's weird to me)


resp. papers, again: 1 2

how to train the new ICFDetector ?

there's a new ICFDetector class in the opencv_contrib repo, it seems to be a nice alternative to the CascadeClassifier (or latentsvm).

well, it comes with all the warts you'd expect from new functionality (hardcoded globs, featuretype), but apart from that, i'm struggling with the parameters for training it.

  • what should be the ratio of positive / negative images ? (there's this params.bg_per_image value, and the final negative count seems to be

    negative_imges_supplied * params.bg_per_image + positive_imges_supplied

    [also no idea, how those are finally 'synthesized', are they at all?])

  • what should be a good feature count ? (more is obviously better, but in what order ? 1000, 10000, 100000 ?)

  • do i need 'cropped' positives ? what about rotation ? would there be restrictions for 'negative' images as well ?

  • what is the difference between 'icf' and 'acf' features ?

  • i noticed that training a CascadeClassifier, subsequent stages take like exponentially longer, but this one seems to behave the opposite way - 1st stage takes longest, then it gets faster, in the end it stops because it seems to be running out of negatives here (since both are using boosting, that's weird to me)

  • tbh, i initially made a mistake, and used grayscale images for both pos/neg sets (being the only ones , that fitted the hardcoded glob patterns on my box), and got much nicer results than with color images now. (yea, call me confused)


resp. papers, again: 1 2